Montage of Joe Rogan using the N-word on his podcast goes viral

May 2024 · 45 minute read

What a dumbass. Seriously!

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by Anonymousreply 177February 7, 2022 10:23 PM

He says the N word video is taken out of context…

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by Anonymousreply 1February 5, 2022 2:21 PM

Rogan honestly seems…not all there. Even in some of his interviews. He can make an insightful comment occasionally, but mostly just seems out of it.

by Anonymousreply 2February 5, 2022 2:33 PM

Of course he's going to spin it in some "I never called anyone that word - we were discussing that word in a larger context" - he always thinks his college-dropout brain is some sort of high intellect.

by Anonymousreply 3February 5, 2022 2:38 PM

There are college dropouts who are intellects. He isn’t one, but they exist.

by Anonymousreply 4February 5, 2022 2:39 PM

He's still got ten times the viewership. He's a half ape who is half high and he's beating the ratings of every television news network. Seethe, Murdoch.

by Anonymousreply 5February 5, 2022 2:44 PM

Why does he have this huge audience? I never heard of him til recently. What is so special about him? He seems like a non-entity to me. Why are his views so important?

by Anonymousreply 6February 5, 2022 2:47 PM

Hmm, someone's coming for Joe. Who could it be?

by Anonymousreply 7February 5, 2022 2:47 PM

[quote]Hmm, someone's coming for Joe. Who could it be?

The sick ones.

by Anonymousreply 9February 5, 2022 3:03 PM

He was so cute on Fear Factor. What happened?

by Anonymousreply 10February 5, 2022 3:20 PM

Fear Factor was 20 years ago… what happened? 20+ years. He aged, like you and the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 11February 5, 2022 3:22 PM

His off camera assistant, Jamie, helps him find clips off the internet in real time. I often wonder if Jamie is just an ass suck up douche like his boss.

by Anonymousreply 12February 5, 2022 3:23 PM

He's issued an apology. I wonder if his fans will like him less for kowtowing to his corporate overlords.

by Anonymousreply 13February 5, 2022 3:29 PM

I can't stand Rogan. Racist, homophobic misogynist. But this Whoopi Goldberg, Joe Rogan war that seems to be happening on social media is getting tiresome. As if both don't have a long history of saying problematic, disturbing shit.

Plus, you know very well if Whoopi Goldberg knew Rogan in any way, shape or form, her ass would have been the first in line to defend him. Just like she did Ted Danson, Mel Gibson and Justin Bieber to name a few.

by Anonymousreply 14February 5, 2022 4:11 PM

People have been asking for 20 years “Why don’t they go online immediately and look up what this politician said in the past?” Or “Why does someone just accept some bs as true. Why not have someone looking stuff up? We have the internet. Why isn’t it being used?”

Well, Rogan uses it, just like people wanted. But the internet is now full of lies, especially when it comes to “natural cures” and “miracle foods.” Food and “naturally” medicine have become an American obsession. The funniest part is that the biggest manufacturers of vitamins & supplements are pharmaceutical companies. And here these dopes are squealing about how duplicitous Big Pharma is, then swears by their products, lol.

by Anonymousreply 15February 5, 2022 4:19 PM

Every time a white person says the word 'nigger' a black baby angel loses its wings.

by Anonymousreply 16February 5, 2022 4:21 PM

R16 you need some serious fucking help. You sure love finding any reason to use that word too. How many red-tagged accounts will it take for you to cut the shit?

by Anonymousreply 17February 5, 2022 4:24 PM

[quote] Food and “naturally” medicine have become an American obsession.

This has always been true, it’s how we invented graham crackers and those traveling medicine men in wagons out West.

by Anonymousreply 18February 5, 2022 4:25 PM

I don't follow Rogan, but for awhile it was "hip" for younger white people to use the n word, copying rappers and comedians. Kanye and JayZ actually had a song " N word in Paris." There was a YouTube video of the rappers exhorting the white audience in Paris to yell out N word in Paris. Some of this outrage is a little ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 19February 5, 2022 4:26 PM

[quote] for awhile it was "hip" for younger white people to use the n word, copying rappers and comedians.

This was never “hip” among white people who had an ounce of sense and weren’t trash.

[quote] Kanye and JayZ

are not white people

by Anonymousreply 20February 5, 2022 4:37 PM

Context and intent matter. The term 'N-word' is infantile. A white person referring to a POC as a nigger is reprehensible! Just using the word is not.

by Anonymousreply 21February 5, 2022 4:44 PM

If you want to talk about 90s/00s trends of white people and the n-word, you at least have to distinguish the “hard r” n-word from the slang term ending in A (which Kanye and Jay-Z used in the song). It was NEVER trendy for white people to throw around the hard-R version. Never. The white people who did that were provocateurs who were getting off on trying to use it without getting in trouble by “just quoting someone else” - and they got called out for that at the time.

by Anonymousreply 22February 5, 2022 4:46 PM

Who cares? Don’t like him, don’t listen. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 23February 5, 2022 4:47 PM

R21, you’re not fooling anyone, disgusting bigot

by Anonymousreply 24February 5, 2022 4:47 PM

I understand that Black people get to use the N-word the way gays get to say faggot, but wouldn’t it be better to retire these words altogether?

by Anonymousreply 26February 5, 2022 4:59 PM

This is crazy. But they are keeping his show?

by Anonymousreply 27February 5, 2022 8:08 PM

They deleted 113 episodes.

What was on them?

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by Anonymousreply 28February 5, 2022 8:12 PM

So crazy. Why don’t they just can him? His show is nothing special. It’s just that there isn’t any good competition.

Can’t people make a good podcast without propaganda? Can’t be that hard.

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by Anonymousreply 29February 5, 2022 8:14 PM

“Off Camera” is a great podcast but doesn’t seem to be in production any more. Sam Jones is a great interviewer. I wish he’d come back strictly as a podcast (might work better than his taped show.)

by Anonymousreply 30February 5, 2022 8:18 PM

How did he get so popular?

A fortuitous collection of guests broken down into 3 categories.

1 Fellow comics 2 People from the combined worlds of martial arts, wrestling and MMA. 3 Interesting topical folks like Neil deGrasse Tyson, scientist Brian Cox, Elon Musk etc

Those groups attracted millions of listeners.

by Anonymousreply 31February 5, 2022 8:26 PM

The only way his fans would stop being his fans is if he said Biden was doing a good job as president.... The n-word is not offensive to them.

by Anonymousreply 32February 5, 2022 8:29 PM

Young men are desperate. Their parents are brainwashed on Fox so they think nothing of sacrificing their own thoughts to someone else’s.

They need other people to tell them how to think.

by Anonymousreply 33February 5, 2022 8:29 PM

Tired of hearing about this dumb overpaid guy and seeing his ugly big head. You just know all of this controversy is only going to make him more popular in the end, and have more money. I do hope Spotify ends up dropping him.

by Anonymousreply 34February 5, 2022 8:32 PM

How did he become so popular? Because there are enough dumb, undereducated straight bros who think that the world has become too "soft", that there's a great replacement of their ilk by feminists, gays, trans, minorities, etc. Hence Rogan, Jordan Peterson and the rest of these grifters who sell them on some idea that they have to become these ubermenschen who eat raw meat, take dubious supplements, use bone broth, shower with icy water and similar nonsense in order to be "alphas" who'll reclaim whatever all those pesky "others" I mentioned earlier have taken away from them.

by Anonymousreply 35February 5, 2022 8:37 PM

[quote] Why don’t they just can him?

Spotify put themselves between a rock and a hard place.

Podcasts bring in far more ad revenue than streaming music, but there was a lag in corporations realizing their popularity and value. Music and audio streaming services were treating podcasts the way they treated songs, as something to platform, not something to make or own themselves. Spotify was the first major company to try to bring podcasts in house, through exclusive deals like the one they gave Rogan. But they also locked up Gimlet and the Bill Simmons stable of podcasts, as well as other celebrities like the Obamas and Brene Brown. To do this they had to spend crazy amounts of funds, like $100 million each for Rogan and the Obamas. (This also pretty much killed indie podcasting, because corporate streaming services are no longer as willing to just host separately-produced podcasts…)

Those investments were worthwhile to them because of the ad revenue they planned to make over years of platforming these podcasts, through subscriptions but mostly through ad revenue. I’d guess Spotify is still far in the hole spending-wise.

But Spotify, STUPIDLY, did not realize it would be viewed as the media producer it now is instead of the streaming service it used to be. No one really blamed Spotify for putting explicit or shitty songs on their streaming service, they’d blame the musician for that. But Spotify is now exercising editorial discretion (or the lack of it). They’re more akin to a tv network hosting a news show, and if NBC Nightly News hosts a segment with an anti-vaccine doctor spouting misinformation, of fucking course NBC is going to get blamed for that.

However, Spotify still needs to make its money back. And worse, its business model depends on its users staying inside the world of Spotify, thinking that they have no need to leave to listen to music or podcasts on competing platforms like YouTube or Apple. By adding Rogan, Spotify introduced a lot of its subscribers to him—it grew his listeners by 75% in a single year. So if they kick Rogan out, they’re not only failing to recoup the money they spent, they’re letting their users follow him somewhere else, to a competing streamer.

They are fucked and it’s their own fault.

by Anonymousreply 36February 5, 2022 8:43 PM

So Whoopi gets a two week suspension from ABC News for not even being offensive (in MY opinion), just saying the not so PC thing; but Joe Fucking Rogan says the N word superfluously and gets protected by Spotify!

by Anonymousreply 37February 5, 2022 8:44 PM

R35 you do know a good portion of those white bros who love him are college educated, or in college, right? His biggest audiences are in Metro areas, and yes, white males.

I can assure you those white guys in Murray Hill etc. listen to him.

by Anonymousreply 38February 5, 2022 8:47 PM

The the devotion of Rogan’s fans to him specifically is overstated. There is a slice of them who love him and do whatever he says - absolutely, yes. But there’s a larger chunk who listen to Rogan because they want something to listen to all day, at manual labor jobs or out of boredom. Spotify’s problem is those are its most valuable customers: people who spend hours per day, every day, listening to podcasts (and the ads that come with them). So the risk for Spotify is, if they kick Rogan out, what’s more important to those users: being able to listen to Rogan, or being able to listen to podcasts on Spotify?

by Anonymousreply 39February 5, 2022 8:50 PM

I don’t think “college-educated” or “Murray Hill” necessarily conflict with “dumb, undereducated straight bros,” as someone who knew a lot of business or Econ major frat guys in college…

by Anonymousreply 40February 5, 2022 8:51 PM

[quote]I don't follow Rogan, but for awhile it was "hip" for younger white people to use the n word, copying rappers and comedians.

There's zero reason why he couldn't have just said the "n-word" JUST like you did instead of actually saying the word any number of times he said it.

Also, it was never "hip." It was always stupid and looked down upon.

[quote]So Whoopi gets a two week suspension from ABC News for not even being offensive (in MY opinion), just saying the not so PC thing; but Joe Fucking Rogan says the N word superfluously and gets protected by Spotify!

Money. Spotify cares about money.

At some point Whoopi will realize that ABC News is over her. I'd still be shocked if she came back. However, the subject of Joe Rogan can be treated separately from Whoopi. That fool has been causing problems non-stop for years.

by Anonymousreply 41February 5, 2022 8:55 PM

Are all Americans such complete retards that they don't understand the concept of a quote anymore? Have you all been lobotomized?

by Anonymousreply 42February 5, 2022 9:04 PM

No, it’s that most of us here understand that the n-word is a radioactive piece of garbage. I want nothing to do with it, I don’t want it coming from my mouth or from my hands. It should be at the bottom of one of those landfills out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. And I’ve known far too many white guys who enjoyed using it by pretending it was the adult thing to do when reading a quote. “Oh my hands are tied, just have to use the n-word!” Bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 43February 5, 2022 9:06 PM

[quote] I can assure you those white guys in Murray Hill etc. listen to him.

Uh-huh. Yes, personal trainers and their ilk.

by Anonymousreply 44February 5, 2022 9:09 PM

So you don't listen to rap, r43?

by Anonymousreply 45February 5, 2022 9:11 PM

R45, I guess you missed the decade-long “But why can’t IIIIII use if ‘THEY’ use it” debates of the 90s? I think that people whose ancestors were labeled with the n-word and sold like property get to decide how the fuck they want to deal with it. And I have no problem keeping it out of my mouth because I don’t want it there in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 46February 5, 2022 9:13 PM

You misunderstood me, r46. I'm not talking about rappers using the word. I'm talking about *you* listening to it.

by Anonymousreply 47February 5, 2022 9:15 PM

What’s the moral argument for refraining from listening to black musicians make art in which they choose to include slurs used against them? That’s a new one to me. Should I not be watching Spike Lee films either, if I refuse to say the n-word?

by Anonymousreply 48February 5, 2022 9:18 PM

Is Aaron Rodgers still going to support him?

by Anonymousreply 49February 5, 2022 9:23 PM

Let me quote you, r48.

[quote] the n-word is a radioactive piece of garbage. I want nothing to do with it [...] It should be at the bottom of one of those landfills out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

Does this sound like you listen to songs that feature that word liberally?

by Anonymousreply 50February 5, 2022 9:27 PM

R50 I apologize profusely for confusing you by being unclear. Let me state my thoughts plainly. Black people get to say, or not say, the n-word as they like. Other people, including me, shouldn’t say the n-word. And when those other people are upset about being judged for saying the n-word, I find that laughable.

Are you still confused?

by Anonymousreply 51February 5, 2022 9:30 PM

You still haven't answered my question, r51. Do you listen to rap music? It's a simple enough question.

by Anonymousreply 52February 5, 2022 9:32 PM

I do, yes! Have you had enough of derailing this thread?

by Anonymousreply 53February 5, 2022 9:33 PM

R42 The answer is yes. Americans are fucking terrible, fullstop.

by Anonymousreply 54February 5, 2022 9:36 PM

If you go to Ivy League colleges there are tonssssss of white Republican men. Actually, women are more likely to be Dems than men in Ivy League schools. Those same guys tend to be homophobic and racist. And they end up on positions of power.

Wake Up.

by Anonymousreply 55February 5, 2022 9:36 PM

OK, thanks. So, even though the n-word is a radioactive piece of garbage you want nothing to do with, which should be at the bottom of one of those landfills out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, you like to listen to music that features it, for fun. But putting it between quotation marks, not to use it, but talk about it - that's not possible?

by Anonymousreply 56February 5, 2022 9:38 PM

Oh, you are still confused? Please see my post at R51 for my answer.

by Anonymousreply 57February 5, 2022 9:39 PM

[quote] But putting it between quotation marks, not to use it, but talk about it

It’s remarkable that Joe Rogan needed to “use it” but not “talk about it” so many times, wow. Maybe even 70 times or more!

by Anonymousreply 58February 5, 2022 9:44 PM

R57, I don't think we disagree on these two points: Black people can use it. White people can't use it. Agreed.

But then there's the question if the word is so toxic that the taboo needs to go even further than that, to include not just white people using it, but also white people *quoting* it. Your first post (radioactive, Pacific Ocean etc) seemed to suggest so. But this maximalist position is not compatible with you, as a white person, happily pressing play on music that features the word over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 59February 5, 2022 9:45 PM

[quote] But this maximalist position is not compatible with you, as a white person, happily pressing play on music that features the word over and over again.

Of course it is. You can attempt to lawyer me as much as you like, but there is obvious and considerable difference between talking and listening; one is active and the other passive. I have a problem with people who aren’t black saying the n-word. I don’t have a problem with people of all races listening to art made by black people who use the n-word, because in that case, it’s not a white person saying the n-word.

It’s this inane and meaningless type of “debate” about things that are quite obvious to anyone with a working brain that makes Joe Rogan and his fans think he’s a genius. But I find it ironic that this discussion began because you asked whether Americans today were mentally deficient, only for you to drag out this dull questioning, which you seem to think is clever.

by Anonymousreply 60February 5, 2022 9:49 PM

[quote] You can attempt to lawyer me as much as you like, but there is obvious and considerable difference between talking and listening; one is active and the other passive

But the difference between using a word and quoting it is just as crucial! If I say "Don't call people faggot", that is very different from saying "Hey, faggot!"

Besides, deliberately pressing play on a song that you know will contain the word is not altogether passive.

by Anonymousreply 61February 5, 2022 9:58 PM

The world is never going to get better, is it.

by Anonymousreply 62February 5, 2022 10:11 PM

[quote]So crazy. Why don’t they just can him?

Because he has 11 million paying listeners.

by Anonymousreply 63February 5, 2022 10:16 PM

R62 People want it to more than not. But when you read websites like this and Breitbart it really does seem hopeless. I never thought I would live to see the world go mad like this. Or maybe its just this intellectually bankrupt country? The media definitely has blood on its hands. And who owns the media?? The billionaires are laughing at us. They won. Its embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 64February 5, 2022 10:48 PM

Anyone that would continually use the n-word would also continually call us faggot.

There's no reason to ever defend this man.

[quote]But the difference between using a word and quoting it is just as crucial!

If you're not black don't use the word, ever.

If you're not gay don't call someone a faggot or a fag.

There is no reason why "n-word" can't be substituted instead of saying the word. Everyone will know exactly what you meant.

by Anonymousreply 65February 5, 2022 10:57 PM

R65 I think its time for people to stop giving mere words so much power.

by Anonymousreply 66February 5, 2022 11:01 PM

R66, words can make or break a business, a marriage, a home. Words on a piece of paper founded a country -- a country that still argues over the interpretations of those words hundreds of years later. People have interpreted the meaning of words in various bibles and fought entire wars because of them. Words have destroyed political careers and healed nations in times of need.

It's silly to say, "stop giving mere words so much power" when the impact they've had on the world is all around us. You could choose to gesture emphatically instead of using words since you think words shouldn't have power but even gestures have meanings too.

by Anonymousreply 67February 5, 2022 11:11 PM

I just started listening because I was wondering why the media are gunning for him so hard. It's a pretty good show.

by Anonymousreply 68February 5, 2022 11:30 PM

[quote] People have interpreted the meaning of words in various bibles and fought entire wars because of them.

And yet another good reason to ignore the bible.

by Anonymousreply 69February 5, 2022 11:33 PM

This is the same man who kissed his black costar on NEWS RADIO…wow.

by Anonymousreply 71February 5, 2022 11:49 PM

There are two things white people can't do. Use the n word and dress in blackface. They lose their fucking mind about this regularly. Joe is a fucking moron who despite his comically oversized head, never uses it

by Anonymousreply 72February 5, 2022 11:52 PM

R67 Words coming from your spouse is one thing - coming from a stranger on the internet is another. I wonder if people actually are offended deep down or they just like the boost of moral superiority outrage brings. Its so fucking tedious at this point. Ive been called tons of names regarding my weight, sex, etc. Who fucking cares? Grow up. Get a fucking thicker skin. You paint a blanket situation by declaring everyone should be up in arms at all times. Get the fuck over yourself. When we have reached peak outrage, which we are at, the tide has to turn somewhere. What do you suggest? We go on this way? We are behaving like fucking toddlers. This reactionary mudslinging is appalling. I appreciate your flouncy, pretentious comment but do get over yourself.

by Anonymousreply 73February 6, 2022 12:02 AM

It’s a disgusting word. Just don’t use it. It’s not hard to understand.

by Anonymousreply 74February 6, 2022 12:03 AM

R74 You are missing the point. You can’t control the fact OTHERS use it so you must control how it affects you and in turn, the power others have over you. Thats the point. People are disgusting and disappointing. This world is ugly. This has been since the dawn of time and rings even more true today. I am not condoning the use of these words.

“Its not hard to understand”. How smug.

by Anonymousreply 75February 6, 2022 12:09 AM

R75 no. Don’t use it. Period. It’s not that hard.

by Anonymousreply 76February 6, 2022 12:11 AM

It was a FUCKING montage of FUCKING BLEEPS. It was NOT a montage of Rogan saying NIGGER.

FUCK you OP, ya CUNT.

by Anonymousreply 77February 6, 2022 12:14 AM

R67 They have impact because we give them meaning.

by Anonymousreply 79February 6, 2022 12:36 AM

R55 Absolutely. Yes, Ivy leagues do have the contingent of what are termed " woke" or " sjw" or whatever term is trendy now. But they tend to either go into the arts or small time activism. People don't seem to comprehend just how many well connected and eventually, quite powerful, right wing assholes come out of the Ivy Leagues. Believe it or not a lot of these bougie conservatives are ten times as vicious and nasty as the much derided small town hillbilly types. They just fall more under the radar because they are more subtle about it.

by Anonymousreply 80February 6, 2022 2:15 AM

This takedown is such low-hanging fruit.... Either Zuckerberg engineered it. Or Bannon. I'd like to see India Aire's text messages for the past two weeks.

by Anonymousreply 81February 6, 2022 2:30 AM

R80 I am just happy someone else knows that fact about Ivy League students. This site is filled with people who claim only the uneducated are homophobic or republicans when that’s one of the biggest lies ever. The Ivy Leaguers are worse. They’re just smarter with it all.

by Anonymousreply 82February 6, 2022 2:40 AM

Joe Rogan is a moron. Anyone who finds him interesting or intelligent is also a moron. I said this on another thread a few days ago and i believe it to be true.

But goddamn do you Americans need to understand that your specific race-based baggage is YOUR specific race-based baggage.

The n-word (and yes, that is what i say, I'm not an edgelord and have no wish to upset anyone) isn't a spell. It doesn't, once uttered in full, turn a non-racist into a racist. If a person genuinely has no beliefs about one race being inherently superior or inferior to another, then singing along to a rap song or having a conversation in which the word is used, for example, in a story about another person using the word in full, doesn't magically turn that non-racist into a racist.

It's just such an odd thing that you've chosen this single word to make so bad, so outside the bounds of civility, that it literally cannot be uttered in any context. It actually kind of reeks. It's often white people screaming about this word and the likes of Della in this thread fist-pumping the inane 'these 6 letters in a row = racist' are a good example. It's white people who puff up their chests and make a big show of smacking down anyone who says it - or, tellingly, anyone who even wants to have a conversation about saying it - as automatically, unquestionably racist. It's like the word itself, that specific arrangement of letters, has become some kind of weird avatar or scapegoat for white people. If I never utter the word, and if i immediately melt down and begin to scream "racism! racist! racism bad!" at anyone discussing it, then I'm not a racist! I'm white, sure, but I'm one of the good ones!

There's something censorious and Victorian in the hysteria surrounding the word. Covering up the table legs never actually stopped any man from thinking naughty thoughts, you know. And disallowing a single word from being spoken, even in discussions ABOUT THE WORD ITSELF, doesn't actually unracist any racists (or enracist any non-racists).

There is actually video on Youtube of one of the people who pulled their work from Spotify using the full n-word. Does that make them a racist, then? Even though they are clearly not racist and their use of the word is in the context of a specifically anti-racist context? I'm actually asking. Della? White Person Saving The Black People By Ostentatiously Condemning Any And All Use Of The N Word In Full Troll? Care to answer?

by Anonymousreply 84February 6, 2022 3:10 AM

It is hilarious how much effort some are willing to expend because deep down they just really want to say the n-word. Keep throwing your long-winded tantrums if you want. But they all read as excuses for why you should be allowed to say the n-word. And you know what? You can! You can even twist yourself into a pretzel to justify it. But that won’t stop reasonable people from seeing you as gutter trash for saying it.

Maybe the reason it appears silly to you is because you don’t comprehend half of the meaning of it. Have you considered that maybe you just don’t grasp the complexity of the situation?

by Anonymousreply 85February 6, 2022 3:20 AM

[quote] The Ivy Leaguers are worse. They’re just smarter with it all.

They aren’t even smarter, they’re just taught how to argue more tediously.

by Anonymousreply 86February 6, 2022 3:21 AM

[quote]But goddamn do you Americans need to understand that your specific race-based baggage is YOUR specific race-based baggage.

Group of people (many of whom are American) talking about an American podcast host, in America, using a word that is offensive to many Americans upset about the usage of the n-word which was used negatively in American history by Americans towards a group of other Americans on his American podcast, listened to by many Americans.

You're the person bringing up Debbie Gibson at a party where no one is talking about Debbie Gibson.

I just think you felt like writing an essay.

by Anonymousreply 87February 6, 2022 3:25 AM

Is there an uncensored version?

by Anonymousreply 88February 6, 2022 4:12 AM

Here's a video R85. Watch for about 20 seconds starting at 2:30 and then make the argument that this man (who pulled his content from Spotify a few days ago over the Rogan anti-vaxx stuff) is a racist. I dare you. Della, feel free. Go on. Any of you, make a coherent argument that this is a racist.

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by Anonymousreply 89February 6, 2022 4:38 AM

The uncensored video is so hard to listen to. And the full thread also brings up other stuff he's said.

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by Anonymousreply 90February 6, 2022 8:29 AM

Never said the word in my 65 years. So I am suspicious of this guy having to say it 70 times in public whatever the context. He just likes saying the word and creates contexts in which he can "justifiably" say it.

I'm a relatively conservative guy and thought his other stuff was not sufficient to cancel him. But Spotify should make the internal decision to deplatform Joe for this.

And he was really hawt 20 or more years ago.

by Anonymousreply 91February 6, 2022 8:38 AM

[quote] Della? White Person Saving The Black People By Ostentatiously Condemning Any And All Use Of The N Word In Full Troll? Care to answer?

I'm not White.

And, r84, I noticed you used a lot of words to avoid addressing the gist of r 67's excellent post which is- words matter; you must think so too, you certainly deployed enough of them in a failed effort at deflecting form r 67's point.

by Anonymousreply 92February 6, 2022 11:30 AM

This was an internal revolt engineered by Spotify employees.

The excellently edited Patriot Takes video was published on Jan. 30.

On Feb 1, Spotify formally announced it'd stand by Rogan for amid the Covid info concerns. But internal Spotify discussions had already .....

"Employees had been skeptically awaiting the discussion at the company’s regular town hall meeting for nearly a week: since things had escalated with Joe Rogan, the company’s star exclusive podcaster, employees had been venting inside the corporate messaging system and awaiting a response from leadership about why it chose The Joe Rogan Experience over Neil Young, setting off a domino effect of other musicians and podcasters pulling content off the service."

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by Anonymousreply 93February 6, 2022 12:54 PM

[quote]But goddamn do you Americans need to understand that your specific race-based baggage is YOUR specific race-based baggage.

Okay but that's entirely irrelevant here, r84. This is about Americans discussing an American podcaster who has almost exclusively American guests and America-centric content, and the use of a slur that means something different here in the U.S. than it does elsewhere. We all know this is an American issue and we're talking about it as such, because that's the context.

Your lecture about how Americans need to blah blargh blurgh is completely and totally unrelated to anything about this situation. Racism in other countries has no bearing on this Joe Rogan n-word thing. It just doesn't. Your reply was nothing but you trying to commandeer this conversation to hear yourself talk and make yourself sound superior.

by Anonymousreply 94February 6, 2022 1:07 PM

r90, it's hard to listen to, but it had to be heard. Vile and evil should never be tempered.

by Anonymousreply 95February 6, 2022 1:18 PM

Spotify is making a huge mistake by sticking by Rogan.

by Anonymousreply 96February 6, 2022 1:24 PM

If a racist uses it to demean another, that’s one thing. But the term is common in rap and plenty of white people love rap, it’s not used by them to demean others. Do they get punished for singing along with Kanye?

by Anonymousreply 97February 6, 2022 1:26 PM

I couldn’t bear to read the whole thread, but isn’t the debate about whether you can use the word if you are quoting someone else moot in this case? Is there any non-racist explanation of why he’s said it so many times, whether he is quoting or not quoting? Seems a bit of an obsession with him.

by Anonymousreply 98February 6, 2022 1:28 PM

There’s something called a wigger. A white person who aspires to black culture. Wiggers call each other nigger as a term of endearment. But that’s now taboo.

by Anonymousreply 99February 6, 2022 1:32 PM

NO R97 BECAUSE RAPPERS ARE BLACK, and you know that, you’re just a racist Klan Granny trying to stir up discord.

Shut your trap and fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 100February 6, 2022 1:35 PM

Rappers are black but many of their fans are white. Are they racists? Or just not allowed at concerts in case they mouth the lyrics? It’s a taboo word that is also used constantly.

by Anonymousreply 101February 6, 2022 1:39 PM

Lenny Bruce once wished aloud that the president would pre-empt network television for the purpose of saying the word "nigger" over and over until it lost all its power and could no longer make a little black child cry.

by Anonymousreply 102February 6, 2022 1:52 PM

The poster who desperately wants to say the n-word and has no other argument than “but rappers do it!” is still going, lol.

by Anonymousreply 103February 6, 2022 1:59 PM

I'm listening to Sufjan Stevens on Spotify right now. I wonder if he will pull out over this. Isn't his boyfriend Black?

by Anonymousreply 104February 6, 2022 2:00 PM

[quote] Lenny Bruce once wished aloud that the president would pre-empt network television for the purpose of saying the word "nigger" over and over until it lost all its power and could no longer make a little black child cry.

This is a great example of someone who’s well meaning but doesn’t really understand the power of the word.

Della has said she isn’t white, but I am, but I also have ancestors who are on record as using the word, and using it to do truly terrible things. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people here defending it or thinking it’s silly to worry over it lack real world experience with it.

by Anonymousreply 105February 6, 2022 2:02 PM

I dont like the word at all. I understand its use in music and movies because people do say it and pop culture is a reflection of our word. But anyone who isnt black should absolutely not use that word. Like the “fa” word there is too much violence and history and misued power behind it

by Anonymousreply 106February 6, 2022 2:16 PM

I worked as a teacher in a mostly black high school in the 90s.I thought the word had completely lost its power to wound. It was great that the black community had reduced the power of the word. But now decades later the word is more charged than ever so I don’t see that as progress.

by Anonymousreply 108February 6, 2022 2:18 PM

He looks like he smells like an unwashed penis. 0/10

by Anonymousreply 111February 6, 2022 2:35 PM

For his listeners, the N word is a feature, not a liability.

by Anonymousreply 112February 6, 2022 2:35 PM

Spotify tied itself to an anchor with this one.

by Anonymousreply 113February 6, 2022 2:39 PM

Well, a much larger platform brings much more extensive public scrutiny. For someone that dumb, the CEO of Spotify did pretty well for himself.

by Anonymousreply 114February 6, 2022 2:42 PM

Like most companies, Spotify's primary concern is with the bottom line. They only care about misinformation or racism in how it can effect their brand.

by Anonymousreply 115February 6, 2022 2:43 PM

There have got to be lawyers or strategy people at Spotify who warned about exactly this happening? It’s not unexpected that once they started funding the creation of podcast episodes, people would start trying to hold them accountable for content?

by Anonymousreply 116February 6, 2022 2:48 PM

Are we witnessing Bill Cosby all over again? That is, a bunch of behaviours that were widely known but were not the topic of news coverage until a handful of people started mentioning them, at which point all hell broke loose and he became beyond defence or redemption?

by Anonymousreply 117February 6, 2022 2:51 PM

It’s almost the opposite of Bill Cosby, it’s that Rogan has spent so many hours endlessly blathering that there was too much content to examine until people had this kind of focus to bring to the search.

by Anonymousreply 118February 6, 2022 2:58 PM

Rogan is win/win while Spotify is lose/lose in this one.The best outcome is a Rogan apology and some punishment. Rogan has 10x the audience of CNN. Hard to believe but true.

by Anonymousreply 119February 6, 2022 3:01 PM

Spotify needs a better strategy team. They have been running behind every twist and turn in this story. They made the fatal mistake of sticking behind him when the dirt hadn’t fully come out. They’re going to have to reverse in the next few days, pay out his contract, and go back on all their arguments in public after already pissing off their customers, employees, and the artists who populate their platform.

by Anonymousreply 120February 6, 2022 3:03 PM

[quote]Rogan has 10x the audience of CNN. Hard to believe but true.

Not difficult to understand at all. Everyone can see through their fake news agenda. Everyone. That's why the viewers are leaving.

by Anonymousreply 121February 6, 2022 3:07 PM

Spotify just mysteriously deleted 100 Rogan podcasts...gee wonder why.

by Anonymousreply 122February 6, 2022 3:16 PM

[quote]isn’t the debate about whether you can use the word if you are quoting someone else moot in this case?

I'm not sure why that's a debate.

As someone who has heard the uncensored version, he's not always quoting someone.

Even so, you don't need to say it even if you're quoting it.

Finally, it's not like he told one or two stories using the word. It's not like he said it 10 times, 20 times, 30 times, 40 times, 50 times, 60 times etc.

I don't think I've heard enough stories using the word to say it that many times.

I'm not so sure why it's so hard to grasp the idea that you just don't use the word unless you're black.

by Anonymousreply 123February 6, 2022 3:41 PM

* 50 times, 60 times etc.

Should have finished with, he used it some 70 odd times.

by Anonymousreply 124February 6, 2022 3:47 PM

Once I was young and blackout drunk. Like mixed xanax and booze walking braindead drunk. The next day my friends regaled me with tales of the crazy shit I'd done the night before. I listened my hands over my ears. So embarrassing. Apparently I'd grabbed a mic from the dj and began yelling crazy shit including the n word. That's when I realized it was April 1st and they were just fucking with me because I would never. You can live your life without ever saying it. It's easy. Even in your deepest stupor.

by Anonymousreply 125February 6, 2022 3:50 PM

Truthfully, white people don’t care if you use the N word

by Anonymousreply 126February 6, 2022 3:52 PM

R119, it isn't a win-win for Rogan. Today I was listening to a podcast that leans libertarian and the tone from them and the listener comments they read out was "he shouldn't have apologized/he needs to leave Spotify." Rogan's hardcore following isn't going to continue loving him when it's clear he'll do whatever Spotify wants to keep the gazillion dollars.

by Anonymousreply 128February 6, 2022 5:08 PM

Jay Z and Kanye naming their song “N—- in Paris” was a humorous way to set up every white fan that lip syncs/ sings along to their songs. Fucking dumb ass Gwyneth Paltrow thought she had a pass to use the word and as the kids say, she showed her ass.

by Anonymousreply 129February 6, 2022 5:17 PM

The guy made a very genuine sounding apology for all this. His Covid misinformation apology was similarly genuine to me. That should be enough. All this just encourages more Trump style “never apologize, just double down” garbage. I’d rather he continue to have a voice and set an example to his audience about how you can grow up, admit mistakes and move on. This country has lot of atoning to do - lead the way Joe.

by Anonymousreply 130February 6, 2022 5:23 PM

The first time he used it he should have been gone.

by Anonymousreply 131February 6, 2022 5:34 PM

R130, I don’t know whether you’re young or dumb, but middle-aged people don’t change. You might switch brands of laundry detergent but meaningful, transformative change very rarely happens for people close to 60.

by Anonymousreply 132February 6, 2022 5:34 PM

R128 However Rogan made a non-apology apology.

by Anonymousreply 133February 6, 2022 5:42 PM

R132 That is so unfair. His apologies are genuine and his reflection seems genuine. On the n-word, he says basically “I haven’t used that word in any context for years, and while the clips were taken out of context, they are very hard for me to watch and I regret it. People say I have no right to use that word, and I came to a place some time ago where I completely agree with that.” I am exactly his age, and I like to think I am able to see things I have done wrong and change my ways. Even if it were fake, I’d take that these days vs the alternative of ‘doubling down on awfulness’ that has become so repugnantly common these days.

by Anonymousreply 134February 6, 2022 5:55 PM

R134, your post is nothing but feelings, beliefs, emotions and assumptions. Then you throw all those, whatever they are worth, out of the window and say that even if Rogan’s contrition is not heartfelt, he’s not as bad as he could be so…

With all due respect, you don’t sound like you have sense to get out of the rain and Rogan sounds right up your alley.

by Anonymousreply 135February 6, 2022 6:10 PM

After catching COVID Rogan went out of his way on his show to consistently stress on the fact that among his therapies was his use of Ivermectin, even though he also took Prednisone, Z-Pak, and monoclonal antibodies, which were probably the main reason why he recovered relatively quickly, along with being physically fit for someone in his mid 50s. Taking Ivermectin as COVID therapy has been shown to not only be ineffective but potentially can make one sicker. The guests he brings on to give opinions on COVID are mainly those in the very slim minority who are either anti-vaxxers or argue against common sense approaches to COVID such as social distancing, mask mandates, etc. His podcast curriculum is loaded with contrarian opinions, alternate science, and a dumbing down of the listeners narrative. Claiming that any misinformation was unintentional is complete bullshit because his own comments and those of his guests been significantly criticized for at least a year now and he completely dismissed them out of hand until the current massive outrage and blow-back. The same goes with the N word issue.

by Anonymousreply 136February 6, 2022 6:14 PM

Dwayne Johnson is backing away from the carwreck

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by Anonymousreply 137February 6, 2022 6:14 PM

[Quote] The guy made a very genuine sounding apology for all this. His Covid misinformation apology was similarly genuine to me.

It’s the typical “I will completely lose what I’ve built up so I will apologize” apology.

“And by the way, vaccines don’t work and, oh yes, nigger.”

by Anonymousreply 138February 6, 2022 6:15 PM

[Quote] After catching COVID Rogan went out of his way on his show to consistently stress on the fact that among his therapies was his use of Ivermectin, even though he also took Prednisone, Z-Pak, and monoclonal antibodies,

Yes, he knows his audience. Plus he was scared shitless of Covid. He claims he was asymptomatic but those people don’t take prednisone and monoclonal antibodies

by Anonymousreply 139February 6, 2022 6:17 PM

It bothers me that the N-word is so fiercely protected and yet the Q-word, another reclaimed slur, is casually thrown around by every straight commentator without a thought. Can you imagine if black people were referred to as the N-word Community in media and government discourse?

by Anonymousreply 140February 6, 2022 6:17 PM

I can't get my dander up over the use of the N word with as many black singers/celebrities/athletes with their continued homophobia. We have Tracey Morgan saying that he would rather his kid be dead than gay. Bow Wow refusing to let a gay guy cut his hair; DaBaby, his comments on people living with AIDS; Kevin Hart-his anti-Gay tweets, as well as his comments about Lil Nas; Azealia Banks and her anti gay comments; and the list goes on. Yes, I am well aware that there is equal amounts of White people who also make anti gay comments. So, no....can't get to riled up over this.

by Anonymousreply 141February 6, 2022 6:59 PM

[quote] I can't get my dander up over the use of the N word with as many black singers/celebrities/athletes with their continued homophobia.

You do realize there are plenty of black people who aren’t homophobic or who … you may want to sit down for this one … are GAY THEMSELVES!

😱🤯😮😲😨🙀😧😦

And, I don’t mean to blow your mind all at once. I know this might be a lot for you but there are also white people who are HOMOPHOBIC!!!!

Oh, wait. You do know that.

😱🙀😱🙀😱🙀🙀😱🙀😱🙀🙀🙀

So your, “I’m okay with Joe Rogan using the n word because someone black was once homophobic,” just may be the dumbest argument I have ever heard in my whole entire life.

Just say you hate black people and get it over with.

by Anonymousreply 142February 6, 2022 8:46 PM

[quote] Can you imagine if black people were referred to as the N-word Community in media and government discourse?

You mean like on the most popular podcast hosted on a large, mainstream corporate platform?

by Anonymousreply 143February 6, 2022 8:47 PM

The apology was shit, R134. "I'm sorry if you were pissed off." That's a *classic* non-apology apology.

And Della, you tiresome cow, I was obviously referring to you AND THEN another one of the 'saying the word out loud, IN ANY CONTEXT, immediately confirms virulent racism' hardliners. Once again I challenge you (and those taking your stance) to go ahead and make a coherent argument that Stewart Lee, a known leftist and progressive comedian, is magically a racist for uttering the word in full in the video here at 2:38. Go on. Make a case beyond "you're just secretly mad you can't wear your klan robes to the grocery store." You can't make it. No one here can. Because he very obviously isn't - and I would even argue that part of the routine would have been less powerful if he had said "n-word" instead.

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by Anonymousreply 144February 6, 2022 8:53 PM

R144 is still so angry about not being able to say the n-word without being judged. Tough luck toots

by Anonymousreply 145February 6, 2022 8:58 PM

[quote] And Della, you tiresome cow,

[quote] Once again I challenge you

Ask politely and maybe I will.

by Anonymousreply 146February 6, 2022 10:04 PM

R139 "Yes, he knows his audience. Plus he was scared shitless of Covid. He claims he was asymptomatic but those people don’t take prednisone and monoclonal antibodies "

A few months ago I tested positive for COVID. I'm 62, I had zero symptoms, and I took absolutely nothing. Mind you I am fully vaccinated. There's not way Rogan had no symptoms if was took all that shit he said he took. He is so full of shit, I expected him to explode at any time, like the shit demon that he is.

by Anonymousreply 147February 6, 2022 10:47 PM

interesting that CNN ousted Jeff Zucker last week, but Spotify's doubling down on Rogan......

by Anonymousreply 148February 7, 2022 12:43 PM

I have no problem with him having his own podcast, which I have no intention of listening to. He can have paid subscribers, advertisements, Patreon, and other paid content, which is what most popular podcast do these days anyway. I do, however, have an issue with my Spotify monthly subscription going towards his 100M paycheck. I came to Spotify for music, not to support that knuckle dragger or any other platform for political opinions.

by Anonymousreply 149February 7, 2022 1:15 PM

it’s disgusting that Spotify still hasn’t let Joe Rogan go. It’s an example of white straight male douchebro privilege.

by Anonymousreply 150February 7, 2022 1:23 PM

hadn't seen THIS clip yet.... Rogan -- and whatever charisma he has as a brah-comic — actually pulls off the joke much stronger than if i woulda seen the words on paper....

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by Anonymousreply 151February 7, 2022 1:53 PM

He said the same thing as Rosanne. They both compared blacks to planet of the apes. Except Joe was much more explicit and racist about it. He literally said that blacks were apes.

To me, the worst think he has said was the planet of the apes comments, even worst than the antivaxx bandwagon stuff. The fact that he was so nonchalant about it. Like he said blacks were apes at least once a day.

What a horrid person and to the think he is influencing young impressionable men who have no role models, no nuanced intelligence. Arron Rogers? He was supposedly this big American hero. This is a recipe for a barbaric society.

And the women who are jumping on is bandwagon are just depraved. Like the failed Comedy Central loser that has a new show every week. She is sticking up for Rogan.

This is all they got. Without misinformation they are nobodies.

by Anonymousreply 152February 7, 2022 2:05 PM

He will probably win this because people are very tired of cancel culture.

Hopefully he and others have learned a lesson. Less racism, Joe!

by Anonymousreply 153February 7, 2022 2:05 PM

R153, But as soon as a woman messes up, she’ll be fired or shamed and suspended.

by Anonymousreply 154February 7, 2022 2:07 PM

When he plays like he is stupid to relate to his audience it shows that is not some innocent show. Why does he need to manipulate? Why does he need to be dishonest to his audience? Those are not actions of a benign program.

by Anonymousreply 155February 7, 2022 2:07 PM

You can’t deny that Joe is a flagrant racist

. I mean PLANET OF THE APES? SERIOUSLY?

Does he want some kind of respect because he is open about his racism?

by Anonymousreply 156February 7, 2022 2:09 PM

Joe will not be canceled!

by Anonymousreply 157February 7, 2022 2:10 PM

I find it hilarious that stupid fucking breeders defend their douchebro hero on Datalounge. It shows what total idiots follow this guy. Posting on DL about this guy, really? Really?

The best thing is how much of fool Dwayne Johnson looks now after defending that asshat.

[quote]That was good enough for wannabe POTUS, The Rock, who patted fellow baldie Joe Rogan on the head for giving a good apology and also plugged his tequila brand by leaving this note in the comments of Joe’s video: “Great stuff here brother. Perfectly articulated. Look forward to coming on one day and breaking out the tequila with you.” But after a video made the rounds of Joe Rogan mouth-sharting out the n-word like nothing, The Rock put down his Team Rogan sign and backed away. Welcome to another edition of When Being A Both Sides Guy Goes Wrong!

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by Anonymousreply 158February 7, 2022 2:16 PM

R158 Many people go along with certain behavior of people they know so long as it doesn't appear to target them specifically. So when it comes out publicly that Rogan has used the N word hundreds of times, now it resonates for him..

by Anonymousreply 159February 7, 2022 2:28 PM

r159. So, big fan and friend Dwayne Johnson missed all the best podcast moments when Joe Rogan said the N-Word? The Rock is a total phony who couldn't pass the chance to plug his own tequila brand to the mouth breathing JR fans.

Rogan has turned into Trump, everything he touches turns to shit. Even Dwayne Johnson is covered in shit, and it may not wash off that easily.

by Anonymousreply 160February 7, 2022 2:34 PM

The Rock isn’t black..........

by Anonymousreply 161February 7, 2022 2:44 PM

Spotify will reverse and Rogan will be gone by the end of the week. He will be banished to one of the Trumpie networks. Good riddance.

by Anonymousreply 162February 7, 2022 2:49 PM

R161, his dad was descended from slaves who escaped to Canada. I bet Joe Rogan thinks he's black. With a white brain or whatever fucked up shit his grandpa mouthed ass says

by Anonymousreply 163February 7, 2022 3:05 PM

Spotify subscribers increase by 16%.

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by Anonymousreply 164February 7, 2022 3:31 PM

I'll say it again. When it rains, it pours! 😁

by Anonymousreply 165February 7, 2022 3:33 PM

As others have noted, context is pretty irrelevant. Its the absolute ease with which the word roles of his tongue, and his obvious comfort with using it, that is the real discomfort. His use of it in [italic]that[/italic] context, that is very telling. He's fine with the word, sees no problem dropping it whenever he feels like it. That's racist AF.

by Anonymousreply 166February 7, 2022 3:43 PM

BRUNG....

Rumble CEO Chris Pavlovski posted an offer letter to Joe Rogan on Twitter offering the podcaster $100 million over four years to bring The Joe Rogan Experience to the platform.

by Anonymousreply 167February 7, 2022 4:47 PM

All humans are literally apes, moron.

by Anonymousreply 168February 7, 2022 4:48 PM

[quote]Spotify will reverse and Rogan will be gone by the end of the week.

Dude he has 11 million paying listeners. Unless that number drops dramatically, he ain't going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 169February 7, 2022 4:51 PM

R164, that was a jump in users in the final quarter 2021, not a recent jump in users.

Did you post a link to a paywalled version of the article, hoping people would just blindly believe you that Spotify has GAINED listeners recently?

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by Anonymousreply 170February 7, 2022 4:52 PM

I mainly use Spotify for music and only occasionally listen to podcasts. Joe Rogan's show always seemed like a somewhat dumbed down approach to conversational talk radio, which is probably the appeal for many people.

by Anonymousreply 171February 7, 2022 4:59 PM

It's not paywalled the first few times you load the page, R170, and that CNBC article refers to analyst projections for 2022, not actual figures.

by Anonymousreply 172February 7, 2022 5:28 PM

Projections for this quarter, r172, the quarter we're currently in, but real actual figures for last year, and that's where the 16% increase comes from.

That 16% increase has nothing to do with Rogan because it's from months ago and isn't recent.

[quote]The streaming company posted 406 million monthly active users in the quarter, up from 381 million. That’s in line with its guidance of 400 million to 407 million and slightly beat analyst expectations, per StreetAccount. Spotify’s premium, or paid, subscribers grew 16% year over year to 180 million in the quarter, the company said. Spotify cited strong promotional campaign performance.

by Anonymousreply 173February 7, 2022 5:31 PM

When Spotify loses Wall Street, Rogan will lose his job. Stick price will decide his fate in the end.

by Anonymousreply 174February 7, 2022 5:31 PM

R174, keep jerking off . Joe ain’t going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 175February 7, 2022 5:39 PM

Wasn't he a MMA fighter? He used to make a living getting kicked in the head?

by Anonymousreply 177February 7, 2022 10:23 PM

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